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Exactly...I'll be scared to death to spend that much money with the
intention of listing it here. And hey, even through all of this, I feel
like I'm meeting some nice people just chatting here...You for one!!!
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acarlover1
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Dec-23-06 21:34 PST
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It feels better knowing that we are not alone in this. We are the same
way. Planning trips so I can visit estate sales and shows. I love the
treasure hunt, too. Since I'm a collector of vinatge jewelry, its
always fun to add to my collection and pay for it by selling pieces
that I am no longer interested in. Gosh, 50 coach bags...Those should
really sell, too. I love coach.
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msclassychik
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Dec-23-06 21:51 PST
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Have to get up at 6am to finish Christmas shopping...12:50 here now, so
I better get some sleep. Hang in there, we can talk more later. I'll
say prayers for us tonight.
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msclassychik
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Dec-23-06 21:56 PST
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One more thing...this is for Sandrarn83...My kinda person...You're
intelligent and you know how to stand up for yourself...I just hope I
can learn how to do that as good as you do...I bet you ain't scared of
nothing....I like that.
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acarlover1
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Dec-23-06 22:05 PST
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Thanks..We need to get a lucky break...
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acarlover1
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Dec-23-06 22:07 PST
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You're right..Sandram, you are an inspiration!
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pooksie112
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Dec-24-06 00:05 PST
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Oh man, I was gone and now everyone is gone. Anyways, msclassychik, Im
not effected by the limit cause I dont sell things that are associated
with faudulent items.
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shellnseth
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Dec-24-06 03:16 PST
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The classified adds in newspapers are just a venue, because they do not
collect final value fees for items sold. They only collect advertising
fees. Also, they do not police what is listed, outside of obviously
illegal items.
Ebay
has a claims service. That also takes them out of "just the venue"
arena. (There are many other implications that can also be easily
argued that Ebay is not just a venue)
Pretty simple really.
Also,
a user agreement is only enforceable to the extent that others opt to
take it, or not to take it, to task in the legal arena. Signed or not.
Anything
can be argued in a court of law. Best to have all the T's crossed and
i's dotted when dealing with the masses and their money.
Also,
one can be right, and still lose. Depends on the representation, and
implication to those who stand to be affected adversely.
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orange_cape_hides_me
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Dec-24-06 03:36 PST
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And since they remove listings and forfeit those fees obviously they care more about buyers then the fees.
No, they don't. They haven't for a long time. When a suspected counterfeit item is removed eBay may refund the first time.
As stated within Ebay's policies, they do not refund the fees for any subsequent removals, even if they were wrongfully removed.
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pooksie112
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Dec-24-06 12:04 PST
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"No, they don't. They haven't for a long time. When a suspected
counterfeit item is removed eBay may refund the first time.
As
stated within Ebay's policies, they do not refund the fees for any
subsequent removals, even if they were wrongfully removed."
I
dont know where you came up with that idea but i work in trust in
safety and I remove listings every day i work and i know that ebay
cares more about the buyers and every fee is always credited back to
the user when a listing is canceled.
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jingle*jangle
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Dec-24-06 12:08 PST
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#409
If
(if) you work in Trust and Safety and are giving us a "professional
view" of ebay's practices you should be posting under a Pink Banner.
Please repost this officially.
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pooksie112
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Dec-24-06 12:10 PST
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I dont post in forums for eBay, this is my personal account.
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mysteriouscutie
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Dec-24-06 12:10 PST
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That would explain his constant attack on sellers posting here.
"If you want to know what a man's like, take a good look at how he treats his inferiors, not his equals." - Sirius Black
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jingle*jangle
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#411
You
are using an id which is not linked to ebay and yet purporting to give
the official ebay position on an issue by dint of your "professional"
ebay experience. Wonder what they'd make of that ?
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pooksie112
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Dec-24-06 12:13 PST
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I'm giving my opinion on the matter
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jingle*jangle
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Dec-24-06 12:13 PST
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#413
Sorry - using an id which is not demonstrably linked to ebay. A small oversight on my part, tsk,tsk.
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jingle*jangle
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Dec-24-06 12:14 PST
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#415
You can't do that, pooksie. Not when you're saying you're an ebay employee and therefore you know the ebay policy position ?
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pooksie112
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Dec-24-06 12:16 PST
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I've been giving my opinion on the selling limit this whole time. I dont see a problem
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jingle*jangle
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#417
I'm
not always on this board so I don't know whether you've stated it
before as an alleged ebay employee stating an ebay policy position
before.
Now I myself am chilled out this evening having
wrapped all presents and had 2 chardonnays (eat your heart out
spaces.)I am myself prepared to believe that you've had too may
tequilas and will regret this deeply tomorrow. I still think that you
may find yourself a tad discomfited.
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Dec-24-06 12:31 PST
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I've emailed the posts to Rob Chesnut. I think I would prefer getting
HIS take on an employee posting on the boards and representing the
company without the use of an identifying ID.
Pooksie,
you're wrong. I know sellers that have had auctions removed that were
NOT refunded their listing fees. Sorry, you're not credible.
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jingle*jangle
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Dec-24-06 12:36 PST
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#419
I think that's probably appropriate caped.
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Dec-24-06 12:37 PST
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What I find most suspect is that POOKSIE112 stated earlier in the
thread that someone that was posting (a seller) "had violations" on
their account when in fact they never have.
I just feel this is something that Rob needs to take a look at. Something is very wrong here.
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jingle*jangle
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Sorry caped. Was a tad distracted. I've known sellers who weren't refunded also. It's been on .co.
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pooksie112
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Dec-24-06 12:41 PST
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Lol, first of all I can share my opinions on the selling limit. I
believe I was the one that brought up violations, I assumed thats why
they had the limit but that was a guess. I didnt accuse them of having
violations or anything like that.
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jingle*jangle
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Dec-24-06 12:41 PST
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#421
I didn't remember that. I guess there are a number of varieties of possible "wrongs".
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Rob, to be clear, here is one of the posts I wrote to you about:
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I
didnt mean that but thats another point. People steal pictures or dont
send what they took a pic of. ebay cant send people to everyones house
to make sure what they sell is real.
You must have the limit still cause of violations. Why should they believe you when you have violations?
They
remove listings that appear to be infringing. They remove listings that
are similar to fraudelent listings. They dont remove them because they
think it might be fake.
Seller states they
have NO violations on their account. However IF they did, is it o.k.
with you to have employees that work in the Draper, Utah location post
confidential information on the boards that violates Ebay's privacy
rules?
I don't think this is what you would want from ANY employee.
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pooksie112
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Dec-24-06 12:42 PST
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But I'm all for refunding sellers if their listings were removed. I've
never heard of anything that never was refunded though
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jingle*jangle
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#425
Thank you caped. I think that pooksie can join my favourite sellers list (aka the graveyard.) It might be interesting.
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((Jingle)) Out of respect for Rob I'm going to leave this thread now. Continuing would not be a good idea.
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pooksie112
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You must have the limit still cause of violations. Why should they believe you when you have violations?
Yeah,
I guess I worded that wrong. I meant like if they had violations and
wanted the limit removed, how could ebay trust them if they did have
previous violations. I wasnt accusing them of having violations, they
know if they do or not.
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Well, I'm not too surprised, but I am really disgusted. Ebay and
employees are reaching new lows. Pookie, you are an employee of ebay
and you are an employee no matter where you go or what you do. You
might not have a legal obligation to stste this, but you certainly have
a moral and ethical obligation. I figured ebay would monitor this chat,
but I never thought they would pretend to be one of us...So, the person
who posted, "How much does ebay pay you?" was correct. I thought you
were looking at ebays methods through rose colored glasses, but it is
through the eyes of a snake in the grass. You should be ashamed of
yourself. My estimate of ebay has now sunk to an all time low. Just
listening to you pookie, if I didn't sell my ebay stock 2 weeks ago, I
would dump all of it. How ironic to call this forum, "SAFE HARBOR" now
that we are all looking over our shoulders to see what mask will be
wearing next. diane@acarlover.com
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I just tried to list an item and was informed that there is a selling
limit on my account. I have purchased thousands of dollars worth of
100% Authetic Items for sale. I have receipts to back up all of my
items. This is christmas!!! How can they do this? I have been doing
business on Ebay since 1999 and have 99.9% postive feedback. On the
days of listing sales I will list over 100 authentic coach items in a
day. I have never had this problem. This is KILLING my business. 
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